We’re always getting book recommendations from our friends. (In fact, here are a few of mine for you!) Sometimes from online lists – “50 Must-Read Books”, Goodreads, etc. But have you ever taken a book recommendation from another book or a movie?
I’m not talking about when you see a great movie, which motivates you to go back and read the book it was based on. Naturally, that happens all the time. That’s how a lot of us started reading Jane Austen, right? – we watched a wonderful movie adaptation first. I mean when a book is mentioned in another book or in a movie. And so you wonder about it, look it up, and decide to read it. I’ve done that fairly often. Sometimes, any excuse will do!
I’ll give you a couple of prime Jane Austen examples. If you’ve read Northanger Abbey, you know that in it there’s a lot of discussion about Mrs. Radcliffe’s gothic novels, especially The Mysteries of Udolpho.
“The person, be it gentleman or lady, who has not pleasure in a good novel must be intolerably stupid. I have read Mrs. Radcliffe’s works, and most of them with great pleasure. The Mysteries of Udolpho, when I had once begun it, I could not lay down again. I remember finishing it in two days, my hair standing on end the whole time.” (Henry Tilney, Northanger Abbey, chapter 14)
Naturally, Henry Tilney’s enthusiasm made me curious! Yes, The Mysteries of Udolpho is a real book, published in 1794, one Jane Austen actually read herself. So, of course I wanted to also! Much to my surprise, I discovered it was available through my local public library. I checked it out and read it. It took me at least a couple of weeks (not two days like Henry Tilney), and I didn’t feel my hair stand on end even once, which was disappointing. Tame by today’s standards and painfully long-winded.
So I didn’t become a big fan, but I was glad to have at least satisfied my curiosity. The same goes for the play Lovers’ Vows. That’s the controversial stage play the young people decide to put on in Mansfield Park. Wondering what all the fuss was about, I looked it up and read it online. Again, very tame by today’s standards. Again, curiosity satisfied! I haven’t yet found and read Harriet’s recommendation to Robert Martin: The Romance of the Forest (Emma).
Movies have recommended books to me too. I read Ursula Le Guin’s The Lathe of Heaven because that author’s work was praised in the movie version of The Jane Austen Book Club (don’t remember if it was in the book or not). I had seen TLoH on our bookshelf before (my husband reads sci-fi), but I never would have picked it up if it wasn’t for Grigg’s challenge to Jocelyn (and vicariously to me too) – that she should try reading something in a new genre. (And if I hadn’t already read Mysteries of Udolpho, its mention in this movie would have made me do it!)
Also, I read Ballet Shoes by Noel Streatfeild because of Kathleen Kelley’s tearful endorsement of the series in You’ve Got Mail. Sadly, I have yet to lay my hands on a copy of the original book that inspired that movie: The Shop Around the Corner (although I have seen the 2 older movie versions of it: The Shop Around the Corner, and In the Good Old Summertime).
Do you see how one thing leads to another… and then another? A movie mention leads me to a novel. Then in turn, I might be inspired to do a little research on the interesting real-life incident both are based on, or to check out a biography about the author, or the next book in the series, or… and down the rabbit hole we go…
One more You’ve Got Mail connection. I originally read Pride and Prejudice after seeing a movie adaptation, but I wonder how many people have been enticed to read it for the first time because it was featured in YGM. Or how about reading Persuasion because it’s incorporated into the plot of The Lake House? Do you suppose many Jane Austen fans have gotten their start that way?I know I’ve received more literary ‘referrals’ – books I’ve read after they were mentioned in other books or movies. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to recall them now. 🙁 If you’re interested, this article gives a list of 26 Books Featured in Movies, two of them Jane Austen titles.
I just love the idea that a book (or a character in a book) can recommend the next thing I will read! Which made me consider if I’ve ever done that myself – mentioned a book in one of my books. I knew I’d used Romeo and Juliet a couple of times. But then I remembered a dinner party scene in Leap of Hope (modern girl goes back to Regency England looking for her own Mr. Darcy). Trying to fit in with her Regency company, our time-traveling heroine Hope/Kathleen tosses out…
“I just recently finished The Mysteries of Udolpho. Perhaps you have heard of it.”
“Udolpho! By Mrs. Radcliffe?” he exclaimed.
“Why, yes,” I answered. “Have you read it too, Mr. Kingsley?”
“Read it? I locked myself in my room and raced through it all in one sitting, refusing to go out or come down for meals until I had finished. Wasn’t it splendid?”
Here, some of the others within his reach joined in with their eager opinions. Meanwhile, I bowed out of the conversation and returned my attention to Mr. Cavanaugh with a calm smile.
He looked a little surprised by this. “You do not share their enthusiasm for this book?”
“I am glad to have read it, but I really did not care much for it myself. I thought it overly melodramatic and tediously long.”
“Other things are more to your taste.”
“Exactly.” I was thinking of Jane Austen’s novels, but I didn’t elaborate for obvious reasons.
“Such as…” he then said, leadingly.
He was waiting for my answer. I panicked. I couldn’t say Pride and Prejudice or Anne of Green Gables or any of my other favorites that came to mind, since none of them had been published yet. And after The Mysteries of Udolpho, I was fresh out of novels that had been!
“Oh, nothing that would interest you, I’m sure,” I mumbled at last. “They are only novels, after all.”
“You might be surprised what interests me, Miss Kathleen…”
You may have noticed from this excerpt that Miss Kathleen’s opinion of TMoU just happens to be remarkably similar to my own. Surprisingly (or not), my heroines almost always agree with me about everything!
What about you? Have you ever followed a literary referral – one book or movie recommending another? Or did you discover Jane Austen after hearing her name or one of her books mentioned someplace other than the obvious (a JA book adaptation or modern interpretation, etc.)? Have you followed any of the same rabbit tracks I have? Please share your story!
Progress Update: My 10th JAFF novel, Colonel Brandon in His Own Words, is finished! It’s now working its way through the post-production phase (proof reading, formatting, cover design) with a view to a summer publication date! Read more about it here.
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The Hungarian play, Perfumerie, was the inspiration for The Shop Around the Corner, In the Good Old Summertime, and You’ve Got Mail, plus the musical She Loves Me.
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Oh, I remember hearing that. Thanks for adding that fact, Denise. What a treasure trove of creativity that one play has spawned!
I can’t remember reading any books because they were mentioned in another book or film! That’s not to say I haven’t, it’s more a matter of remembering!
I actually chose Pride and Prejudice as my Sunday School prize in my early teens. I also read her other books but this was most definitely my favourite. I don’t recall seeing any adaptations of P&P until the 1995 series (so if I did they were totally unmemorable!) but in 1995 I was glued to the TV each week and was totally smitten! I also love the 2005 film, I’ve seen the 1940 and the 1980 versions once but I would never be tempted again.
Last time I commented on an AV post it said it couldn’t post as the header was too large (whatever that means) it then wouldn’t let me go back on the post at all, however I did get a reply so obviously it did post. I had the same problem a while ago with Meredith’s site but it seems to have resolved itself.
So, even though I didn’t actually answer your question I do hope this posts.
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Ah, the inscrutable mysteries of technology! It can be so maddening, and yet we can’t manage life without it anymore. Congratulations on your meandering but successful post, Glynis!
I also occasionally write down a book or movie mentioned in another book or movie, and sometimes follow through, including some of the ones you’ve mentioned here, Shannon. Actually, watching You’ve Got Mail always makes me think vaguely that I should watch The Godfather, but then I think more seriously about that and always decide not to!
I also read some of Anne Radcliffe and found it tedious; ended up skimming a lot of it. It makes me even more sure that Austen was parodying such novels, though she must have enjoyed them too, before she could parody them!
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Haha! I was not even tempted to follow the Godfather reference. I think I watched the first one when it came out and that was enough (too much, actually) for me.
As to the tedious Mrs. Radcliffe and novels like hers, I can see why they might have been popular then but not now. When books were one of the few sources of entertainment, I imagine readers wanted their treasured novels to last as long as possible. And precise, detailed descriptions were important for people who weren’t able to easily visualize other times, places, and social strata by simply turning on a television.
I have been moved to read books mentioned in works of Austen, but for the most part, I confess I could never get past the first few chapters. I have read other movie-inspired books, but can’t recall for sure if I read the book or saw the movie first. It’s been a long time. I think the last was James Patterson’s Kiss the Girls.
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Yes, Marie, it can go either way – book recommending the movie or movie recommending book. Now you’ve got me wondering about Kiss the Girls! You didn’t say whether you liked it or not, though. Not my usual fare, but I would like to break out of the Regency rut I’ve been in. 🙂
It’s a thriller for sure. My husband’s favourite genre was mysteries and bought every James Patterson book there was until he passed. Kiss the Girls, book and movie were excellent. I believe “Along Came a Spider” came before Kiss the girls and might be read first. I can’t quite recall. Highly recommend.
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Thanks, Marie. I’ve read a few of Patterson’s books – the lighter stuff, not the thrillers. But I’m game.
My love of JAFF has lead me to movies and books I wouldn’t have experienced otherwise.
The movie You’ve Got Mail inspired the JAFF story A Noteworthy Courtship by Laura Sanchez. While reading that story online I learned from commenters about the movie The Shop Around the Corner, so I sought out and enjoyed the Jimmy Stewart movie also.
I watched the Gregory Peck/Audrey Hepburn movie Roman Holiday because I enjoyed the book London Holiday by Nicole Clarkston.
An all time favorite JAFF story of mine is the sadly unfinished Forgotten Memories by Darcy DeFirth. When I realized the story was based on the Ronald Coleman/Greer Garson movie Random Harvest, I sought out the movie so I could learn how the story ended. I absolutely adored that movie.
I have watched movies and read books that featured actors that portrayed Jane Austen characters. I watched the Colin Firth movie A Month in the Country and read the book of the same title by J.L. Carr. I enjoyed the movie very much and Colin Firth seemed so young! Colin was 27 the year the movie was released, the same age as fictional Fitzwillliam Darcy at the beginning of Pride and Prejudice.
I also watched the movie The Camomile Lawn because it starred Jennifer Ehle. I enjoyed the costumes and the sets in that movie, the movie’s plot not so much.
I enjoyed the movie and book The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society. The movie featured Lily James, who starred as Elizabeth Bennet in Pride, Prejudice and Zombies.
I have read and appreciated some classic books because I loved JAFF books that were inspired by the classic novels. I read the book Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier due to reading Nameless by Julie Cooper. I read a Civil Contract by Georgette Heyer because of The Marriage Bargain by Lucy Marin. I also read the Blue Castle by L.M. Montgomery because of An Affectionate Heart by Heather Moll.
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I can tell you get the idea I was trying to get across: one read/watch leads to another. Sounds like you’ve taken the concept forwards, backwards, and sideways! Thanks for sharing your experience, Jeannine!
I started reading Jane Austen late in life, after seeing (and rewatching) a number of movie adaptations I had a talk with myself wondering why I had never read them. I bought the entire set in paperback and made it my New Year’s resolution back in either 2005 or 2006. I started with Northanger Abbey because I’d never seen any movie of it. Mistake. I had spent my years even as early as college-but surely thereafter, reading minimalist literature, short stories, and stories in magazines. I’d forgotten how to read that kind of writing. It was rather mortifying but I persevered and obviously very glad I did.
I really did use the movie The Lake House as another kick in the pants to start reading Jane Austen! During those years I described above I was raising a very challenging gifted son and had very little time to read, but craved it. I got what I could from the local library using one book as a jumping off step to another book reading everything I could find once I liked an author. The short story collections were a great guide. And our newspaper had book reviews. Sometimes I’d score a NYT Sunday book review and glom over that for a few weeks, making lists. Those were days when I did a lot of reading based on books mentioned in another book I was reading. A lot of authors popular during those years and the couple of decades previous, who were published by The New Yorker, and the New York Times were big name droppers. Eventually I got tired of those kinds of books.
Since I started reading Austen variations I mostly take note of books mentioned, look them up, put them on a wish list, and usually forget about them. What I Do follow through on more often is looking up and listening to music mentioned.
I love the old movie Shop Around the Corner.
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Similar experience, Michelle! I pretty much gave up reading while I was raising kids. But when I got back to it, I pledged to read the “classics”, including Jane Austen. So I discovered her later in life too and partly thanks to a movie adaptation (P&P’95). Interesting to hear The Lake House also played a role for you. Thanks for sharing!
I’ve always been curious about Mrs Radcliffe’s gothic novels, especially The Mysteries of Udolpho, because they are mentioned so often in Austen’s books.
Now that I’ve read your assessment of it, I’m no longer tempted to give it a try. 😉
I guess Austen’s work is pretty unique in being interesting to people of her time as well as to people today. It shows her genius.
Wasn’t my cup of tea, but I wouldn’t want to discourage you from giving Udolpho a try. People’s tastes are different. I certainly agree that JA’s book are unique works of genius, though!