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P&P: Behind the Scenes – Mr. Collins Applies to Sir William for Charlotte’s Hand — 23 Comments

  1. This was brilliant. I never thought of it before, but Sir William Lucas and Mr. Collins are so alike in their manner of speech. This was so funny. Thank you for starting my morning with this missing scene.

    • Thanks for the kind words, Michelle! Mr. Collins is always fun to write. Makes me almost sorry I killed him off first thing in “The Darcys of Pemberley.” Haha!

  2. Short and sweet and directly to the point, Shannon. I cannot imagine how Mr. Collins would have survived had it not been for his benefactress, Lady Catherine de Bourgh propping him up. He relies on that relationship throughout the entire story.

    • Very true, Linda. Lady Catherine is for Mr. Collins a beacon in the night – guiding his way and directing him what to think. Reminds me of something I wrote in “Mr. Collins’s Last Supper”:

      In the interim, the clergyman basked in the rarefied light of Lady Catherine de Bourgh’s patronage, a place where he could sample, albeit vicariously, the wealth and consequence he secretly yearned for. The crumbs from her exceedingly handsome table often fell to him. Her Ladyship, in return, received a doggedly faithful servant eager to prostrate himself at her feet.

  3. So funny and I imagine that is just what would have been said. I couldn’t possibly cope with that man being with Elizabeth. In fact she has to be with Darcy by the end of the book for me to read it and even better if they get together earlier. Thanks for letting us into your version of this scene.

    • My pleasure, Glynis! And I agree with you; no matter what variations (or sequels, in my case) we may write, Darcy and Elizabeth MUST get together and STAY together.

  4. Witty writing. Never before have I felt that Collins and Sir William are very much alike, but your story made them so. I’m sure glad Elizabeth said no. How he ever imagined himself good enough for Elizabeth was beyond belief. His nonsensical babbling would have driven her crazier than she already was when he’s around her family. Well written.

    • Thanks for your comment, Carol. It’s mostly my imagination at work here! 😉 We don’t really know that much about Sir William Lucas, except that he let being made a knight (just for giving a pleasing speech before the king when he was the mayor) go to his head, suddenly giving him a disgust for his own business endeavors. The fact that he felt that compliment too much does remind me of Mr. Collins feeling the honor Lady Catherine’s notice too keenly.

  5. So funny. I practically squirmed with embarrassment for Mr. Collins *and* Sir William during Mr. Collins’ “application for the blessing of the honored father of his beloved upon the impending nuptials” as Mr. Collins would have phrased it.

    I especially enjoyed the final line in which Charlotte is not actually excited but feels satisfied with her work. That little sentence reveals so much about Charlotte’s practical nature. 🙂

    Thank you for a hilarious scene, Shannon!! 🙂

    Warmly,
    Susanne 🙂

    • Thanks for the encouraging words, Susanne, as always. And I should have managed to work “impending nuptials” into the story – great line!

      As for Charlotte, we’re told in the book:

      Her reflections were in general satisfactory. Mr Collins, to be sure, was neither sensible nor agreeable; his society was irksome, and his attachment to her must be imaginary. But still he would be her husband… however uncertain of giving happiness, [marriage] must be their pleasantest preservative from want. This preservative she had now obtained; and at the age of 27, without having ever been handsome, she felt all the good luck of it.

  6. One of these days Mr. Collins will choke on some of the words he speaks, but I trust that when it happens he is sure not to notice, since I believe that he likes the sound of his voice much more than the affect of the words themselves. If only he knew what you have in store for him !

    • Yes, he will choke, Melanie, as you allude to, but on something more substantial than his own words!

      (For those not in on the joke, see The Darcys of Pemberley or Mr Collins’s Last Supper)

  7. Such an entertaining scene! I admit I never thought at all about how the Lucas household would have reacted to the news of the engagement (probably because thinking about ANYONE being married to Mr. Collins makes me kind of ill). But you did a great job imagining this missing scene and and it actually makes me feel a little bit better knowing that several people were given joy by the situation.

    • Glad you enjoyed it! I just let my imagination extrapolate from what we’re given in the original text (chapter 22 of P&P). As I said in the intro, I highly recommend rereading this passage. It’s some of JA’s wittiest narration, imho. Makes me chuckle every time!

  8. Everyone above has said it so well. Knowing Mr. Collins I was looking for him to go on and on with his effusions and just about never get to the point! But he did and I, too, liked how you had Charlotte say…her day’s work. She does have some wisdom and can “handle” Mr. Collins well. Which she will need for a long time to come.

    Thank you for this additional excerpt to my favorite story.

      • Yes, I did read that but I am thinking more along the lines of just filling in chapters for P&P…didn’t think of your oh-so-funny book. Shame on me. And I shouldn’t laugh at that either but am excusing myself in that it is a book.

        But still Charlotte was prepared even if it was only a needed skill for a short time. I won’t go into how one variation had her get respite in another way, MA only type! Yikes. Not how I want to think of Charlotte.

        • No problem, Sheila! You’ve read more than one P&P continuation. I only think of my own. Rescuing Charlotte was one of my top priorities. The other was to prevent Mr. Collins reproducing! Worthy goals, I hope you would agree.

          • I am Laughing Out Loud at your comment about Mr. Collins reproducing…imagine having him and Lady Catherine influencing a young child’s development! Yikes.

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